Will UNBX provide enough flow for two shower heads?
I have a custom shower that was just finished. It has a standard shower head and also a rainfall head. The contractor installed the UNBX rough-in, plugged the tub port, installed a three position diverter, and 1700 trim. Now, my Delta dealer is telling me we should have installed the UNBX-HF to use with a diverter in order to run two heads at the same time. They are saying the UNBX does not have enough flow for two heads at the same time because there is a restriction device when the tub port is capped. My Delta dealer said the only other possibility was to turn the UNBX upside down and use the tub port. Now, there is no way to go back and change the rough in. Thousands of dollars in tile work is done, and the wall would have to be torn out. Any suggestions on what to do? What is the GPM of the shower port on the UNBX vs the UNBX-HF? Can anything be done to increase the flow?
Asked by: Ken
Hi Ken, Thank you for your question. At 60 psi the 17 series cartridge will give you approximately 6.04 gpm on the R10000-UNBX and 6.66 gpm on the R10000-UNBXHF out of the shower port. The diverter will lessen the waterflow to the showerheads but you should have enough water to run 2 showerheads at the same time.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
How far do you insert the plug supplied with the valve to close off the unused side? Do you use a hammer to force fit in the opening?
Asked by: Ed
Hi Ed, Thank you for your question. The plug should fit into the port until it bottoms out. This will leave approximately 1/8" of the plug exposed. The plug should slide in without the use of a hammer especially when the flux is added prior to sweating.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
What are the stops for and how do they work
Asked by: Rich
Dear Rich,
Thank you for your inquiry! The screw driver stops on the Delta MultiChoice Universal Rough-In Valve R10000-UNWS allow you to shut the water off at the faucet instead of shutting off the water to the whole house, if you need to do maintenance or repairs to the faucet. With a flat head screwdriver, you would adjust the stems clockwise to close and counterclockwise to open.
https://media.deltafaucet.com/MandI/50353%20Rev%20J.pdf
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Tanya
Date published: 2024-03-28
I this compatible with your delta rp54870?
Asked by: Darth
Hi, Darth!
Thank you for your question. The Delta MultiChoice Universal R10000-UNBX Rough Valve Body will not fit the Delta RP54870 Renovation Kit. This kit fits our 600 series Valve Body.
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
I'm wanting a valve with stops that is for shower only. Do you still make the R1000-UNWSHF? I don't see it on your website.
Asked by: Gold
Hi, Gold!
Thank you for your question. We do still make the R10000-UNWSHF. Here is the link to the valve body on our website:
https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/product/R10000-UNWSHF
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Rosanna
Date published: 2017-01-05
Distance from valve to shower head
I am getting water out of my shower head when filling the tub. My distance from valve to tub spout is 14inches. All plumbing connections are 1/2 inch CPVC, except the drop down for the tub spout, it s 1/2 inch galvanized. What should my distance from valve to shower head be? Any other suggestions?
Asked by: Mark
Dear Mark,
Thank you for your question. What you are experiencing is called shower-rise. Someone has made an installation error in your wall. Here are the four things to check.
1. The distance between the center of the valve body to the center of the tub spout must be between 8 and 18 inches.
2. You must use straight ½” copper or ½” iron piping for the piping down to the tub spout. No PVC piping, PEX piping, drop ear elbows or shark fittings are allowed for the piping going to the tub spout.
3. You can only use one 90 degree elbow with the piping going to the tub spout.
4. The main valve body must be installed right side up.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Tanya
Date published: 2018-02-25
Installing T17278 and 51708 in my new shower.
Can you tell me what I would need for valve body and/or diverter so that I can use each separately, as well as both at the same time?
Thanks.
Asked by: TK
Hi TK, Thank you for your question. You will need your shower trim T17278, and shower rough, we recommend the R10000-UNBXHF for your set up. The diverter will require the diverter trim T11800 and diverter rough R11000. This will allow you to use each showerhead individually or at the same time. The last piece you need in addition to the 51708 slide bar hand shower is the 50560 wall elbow for the hand shower.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
What is the difference between the Universal valve model R10000-UNWS and R10000- UNBX?
Asked by: Scott H
Hi, Scott H!
Thank you for your question. The difference between the R10000-UNWS and the R10000-UNBX is that the R10000-UNWS includes "stops". These stops allow you to shut the water off at the faucet instead of shutting off the water to the whole house, if you need to do maintenance or repairs to the faucet. With a flat head screwdriver, you would adjust the stems clockwise to close and counterclockwise to open.
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
We have a Delta (addison) tub faucet Model R10000 - water isn't hot
How do we adjust it to make the water hot? Can't find anything in the instructions that came with it.
Thanks,
Asked by: pegjamo
Thank you for your question. Your Addison tub faucet contains a rotational limit stop. that may need adjusting to allow more hot water to flow through the valve. Included here are the instructions for adjusting the limit stop. The first one is if you have a 1700 series faucet with a temperature knob and volume control that are separate. The instructions are on page 9.
http://www.deltafaucet.com/customersupport/documentation/t17292-ss.html?document=mi&documentIndex=0#flashWrapper
The second set are for the 1400 series faucet with only a temperature contol. The directions are on page 8.
http://www.deltafaucet.com/customersupport/documentation/t14292-cz.html?document=mi&documentIndex=0#flashWrapper
Answered by: Delta1
Date published: 2024-03-28
How to use with 13 series trim
I recently purchased the T13020-SS trim (13 series), however I cannot install the cartridge for it because the cartridge is longer in depth than can fit into this valve body. The current cartridge in the valve body is the RP46463 (17 series), which is shorter than the 13 series cartridge.
Is there a way to make the 13 series cartridge fit in this valve body?
Asked by: Jon
Hi John, Thank you for your question. The RP46074 cartridge that comes in the T13020-SS trim will work with a R10000-UNBX multichoice valve. Please verify that the 17 series cartridge adapter RP46073 that is part of the RP46463 cartridge is no longer in the valve body.
http://www.deltafaucet.com/repairparts/details/rp46073.html
If your existing valve is older than February 2006 it is a pre-multichoice valve and the current 13 and 17 series cartridges do not work in the older rough in valve.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
Hello,
Can the R10000-UNBX work with T11959-BL
Asked by: David423
Hello David423,
Thank you for your question. The trim T11959-BL is a six setting, 3-port diverter trim and must be installed with the diverting valve R11000.
https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/product/R11000
Best regards,
Edward
Answered by: DeltaFaucet234
Date published: 2024-03-28
Does this valve work with this Show and Tub trim? T17459 [https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/product/T17459-SSLHD]
Asked by: Jeph
Hi, Jeph!
Thank you for you question. The Delta Monitor T17459-SSLHD Shower Faucet does work with the Delta MultiChoice Universal R10000-UNWS Rough Valve Body.
Best Regards, Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
What are the stops for on the R10000 multi choice and how should i adjust them ?
Asked by: Larry G
Hi, Thank you for your question. I do apologize for any confusion regarding your Delta product. We are happy to help!
The stops on the R10000-UNWS are for turning the water off at the shower versus turning the water off to the whole house
Please contact us at 1-800-345-3358 if you have any further concerns. We are open Monday through Friday 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM central time, and 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM on Saturday.
Best Regards,
Bethany
Answered by: DeltaFaucet7
Date published: 2024-03-28
Can the R10000-UNBX be used in conjunction with PEX for a shower/tub combo?
Asked by: ThisGuy
Hello ThisGuy,
Thank you for your question. Yes, the Delta MultiChoice Universal Valve R10000-UNBX or R10000-PX can be used with PEX tubing, you would want to make sure that you use proper fitting with each type and proper tooling with crimping PEX fitting and cold expansion PEX models.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Can you please show a diagram that shows a side view of this product and framing that will show the location as it is roughed in just prior to installation of classic 400 shower stall
Asked by: Randy
Hi, Randy!
Thank you for your question. Here is a link to the Maintenance and Instruction Guide for the Delta MultiChoice Universal R10000 Rough Valve Body:
https://media.deltafaucet.com/MandI/X00050353_J.pdf
The side view and measurements for installation will be on page 2.
Best Regards, Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
We had the R 10000 valve and the T 17294 shower faucet installed in November. We are getting complaints from visitors that the water pressure is weak.
Can we make any adjustment to the valve or shower head to improve the water pressure which was fine before our new valve and shower head were installed? Pressure is also fine in the rest of the condo.
Asked by: Gregg
Hi, Gregg!
Thank you for your question and I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing low flow from your Delta shower.
You may have some debris trapped in the valve body or cartridge assembly that is blocking the water flow.
You may need to clean out the cartridge assembly and flush out the valve body. First turn off the water supply to the faucet. Remove the handle assembly, unscrew the bonnet ring and remove the cartridge assembly and all seals. Rinse and clean the cartridge out thoroughly. Turn both the hot and cold water back on for 10 to 15 seconds to flush out the valve body. After the allotted time, turn the water off and reinstall all of the components. Make sure that there is no debris on the cartridge assembly and seals.
If this does not resolve your issue, then the cartridge assembly may need to be replaced.
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Rosanna
Date published: 2017-06-25
What cartridge should I use with a r10000-UNBX valve?
Asked by: Brent
Hi, Ronald!
Thank you for your question. The Delta MultiChoice Universal R10000-UNBX Rough Valve Body works with any of our Delta Monitor 13/14, 17 Series, and TempAssure 17T valve trim kits. All valve trim kits include the necessary valve cartridge assembly for installation. Here is a link to our available valve trim kits:
https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/showering/tub-and-shower-faucets
Best Regards, Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Will this work with the Delta T17438-SS?
Asked by: KyFe
Hi, Kyfe!
Thank you for your question. The Delta Monitor T17438-SS Tub and Shower Valve Trim Kit will work with the Delta MultiChoice Universal R10000-UNWSHF Rough Valve Body.
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
what choices of trim kits do you have for the R10000-unbx?
Asked by: Steve
Hi, Steve!
Thank you for your question. Any of our Delta Monitor 13/14 Series, Monitor 17 Series, and TempAssure 17T Series Trim Kits will work with the Delta MultiChoice Universal R10000-UNBX Rough Valve Body. Here is a link to our available trim kits:
https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/showering/tub-and-shower-faucets
Best Regards, Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE R10000-UNWS-3 AND THE R10000-UNWS?
Asked by: MIKE J
Thank you for your question, MIKE J! The R10000-UNWS and R10000-UNWS-3 are the same valve body. The only difference is that the R10000-UNWS-3 comes included with 3 R10000-UNWS valve bodies.
Best Regards, Benjamin
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
I have a four port valve control for a shower only installation and need to plug a port.
It appears as though the hole in the tub port is larger then the hole for the shower port. Can I plug the hole for the shower and use the tub port for my shower to get more pressure?
Asked by: Mike
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your question. We do not recommend rotating your shower valve assembly. The showerhead itself is restricted to 2.5 gallons per minute flowrate.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
R10000-UNBX Has a minimum Spec for the tub spout of 8", Can I make it 6 1/2 inches
I am doing a three knob retrofit on a tile wall, the distance from the center of the valve to where the old tub spout is about 6 1/2 inches not the specified minimum of 8". I am using a R10000-UNBX , with the escutcheon and a T17430-H2O trim kit. It will be a lot of extra work to get the 8 inch minimum distance from the center of the valve to the tub spout, is this a strict minimum dimension? Is there something I can do, such as wider or narrower pipe to the spout and only have a 6 1/2 inche distance from the center of the valve to the spout. The shower function(Not The Tub) will be used 99.9% of the time,
Thanks,
Greg
Asked by: Greg
Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, this has to be the measurement. It needs to be between 8" and 18" or you will probably have shower rise. Shower rise means the water will rise up and come out the showerhead when you are trying to use the tub spout only.
Answered by: Delta1
Date published: 2024-03-28
Does this valve have volume control? Or do we need to purchase another part as well?
Asked by: Robin
Hi, Robin!
Thank you for your question. The Delta MultiChoice Universal R10000-UNBX Rough In Valve Body will need to be installed with a valve trim kit. Our Delta Monitor 17 Series and our Delta TempAssure 17T Series Trim Kits have both volume and temperature controls. Here is a link to our Trim Kits:
https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/showering/tub-and-shower-faucets
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
17 Series cartridge adapter installation
I have the R10000-PXWS universal valve and the cartridge that came with our trim kit is a 17 series. The instructions say to push the cartridge adapter into the valve assembly and then screw that in place to secure it. This valve assembly does not have a hole to receive the screw. Instead there is an empty space where the screw hole should be.
I can remove the screw entirely and install the adapter, then the cartridge. Would this be secure enough once the retaining ring is tightened over the cartridge?
Asked by: Richard
Hi Richard,
Thank you for your question! The valve has been redesigned, and the screw is no longer needed to secure the adapter.
Thanks,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2024-03-28
New trim for old valve body
I need to replace the trim package on my existing Monitor 1700 Series shower valve. The existing cartridge is an RP32104 (white top, single tab on left). The valve body seems to be an older model that has screwdriver stop assemblies soldered to both sides and the threaded screw holes for the escutcheon trim screws are both on the bottom of the side of the body. All of the replacement trim packages show the screws on the lower left and upper right so they don't line up with the screw holes on my valve body. The new mounting brackets don't seem to provide an access to the screwdriver stops. Is there an adaptor or some other way to mount a new trim package to this valve body?
Asked by: philimus
Thank you for your question. Unfortunately there is not a trim that will fit your current valve body. You will need to replace the valve too. We recommend Delta Faucet model # R10000-UNBX multi-choice valve.
Or if you want to keep the screwdriver stops like on your current valve, then we would recommend Delta Faucet model # R10000-UNWS. This would allow you to turn the water off at the valve for servicing instead of the whole house.
Answered by: Delta1
Date published: 2024-03-28
what delta trim kits are compatible with R10000-UNWS valve body?
Asked by: paula
Thank you for your question. Delta Faucet model # R10000-UNWS can be used with any 1300/1400 series or any 1700 series trims. Once it is in the wall, the trims can easily be switched to upgrade or change finishes without changing the valve.
Answered by: Delta1
Date published: 2024-03-28
why can't I use pet tubing for the tub spout?
Asked by: EZELA
Hello Ezela !
Thank you for your question regarding the Delta R10000-UNBX MultiChoice® Universal Tub / Shower Rough - Universal Inlets / Outlets!
I am sorry this information was not readily available, and I am happy to help you!
If you use pex and not 1/2 inch copper or galvanized you will end up with shower rise. Shower rise is when the water can’t get out of the tub spout as fast as it flows through the valve. This causes the water to back up and come out the shower head when the user only wants the tub spout to flow. Even though pex is 1/2 inch, the diameter inside is smaller.
Please reach out to us directly if you need further assistance.
Thank you for being a loyal Delta Faucet customer.
Best Regards,
Antoine
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-09-11
What type of screws do you recomend for mounting this valve?
Asked by: Thriftyfisher
Hi Thriftyfisher,
Thank you for your question! Any standard wood screw will work for mounting the valve to the stringer.
Best regards,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2024-03-28
can this be installed upside down?
Asked by: jeffrey
Thank you for your question, jeffrey! We recommend installing the Delta MultiChoice Universal Rough-In Valve R10000-UNWS with the arrow and the "UP" facing the right direction for proper installation.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Have a Monitor 1700 series shower. I would like to update. How do I identify' the rough body? Will 17 series sets work here? What are my options in brushed nickel?
Asked by: Mike C
Hello Mike C,
Thank you for your question. As long as the screw holes on your large round escutcheon plate are at the 1 and 7 o'clock positions and you do not have a push button shower diverter directly below the off and on handle, then any of the Delta tub and shower trim kits that start with a T17, except for the T17T series trim kits will interchange for you. You can also install the R10000-UNBX with any 17 series trim kit of your choice.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28